actualiteitsforums  

Ga Terug   actualiteitsforums > ACTUALITEITSFORUM > WERELD > Cultureel-maatschappelijk
Gebruikersnaam
Wachtwoord
Home FORUMS Registreer Arcade Zoeken Posts van vandaag Markeer Forums als Gelezen

Antwoord
 
Onderwerp Opties Zoek in onderwerp Waardeer Onderwerp Weergave Modus
  #1  
Oud 20th May 2018, 16:14
Lander.W*yts's Avatar
Lander.W*yts Lander.W*yts is offline
Registered User
 
Geregistreerd op: Sep 2017
Locatie: Noorderwijk
Posts: 38
Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like this'

Juan Carlos Cruz, who was sexually abused, says pontiff told him God did not mind that he was gay.

A survivor of clerical sexual abuse has said Pope Francis told him that God had made him gay and loved him, in arguably the most strikingly accepting comments about homosexuality to be uttered by the leader of the Roman Catholic church.

Juan Carlos Cruz, who spoke privately with the pope last week about the abuse he suffered at the hands of one of Chile’s most notorious paedophiles, said the issue of his sexuality had arisen because some of the Latin American country’s bishops had sought to depict him as a pervert as they accused him of lying about the abuse.

“He told me, ‘Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like this and loves you like this and I don’t care. The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are,’” Cruz told Spanish newspaper El País.

Now 87, Fernando Karadima, the man who abused Cruz, was found guilty of abuse by the Vatican in 2011.

Greg Burke, the Vatican’s chief spokesman, did not immediately respond to questions about whether Cruz’s statement accurately reflected his conversation with the pope.

It is not the first time it has been suggested Francis has an open and tolerant attitude toward homosexuality, despite the Catholic church’s teaching that gay sex – and all sex outside of heterosexual marriage – is a sin. In July 2013, in response to a reporter’s question about the existence of an alleged “gay lobby” within the Vatican, Francis said: “Who am I to judge?”

The new remarks appear to go much further in embracing homosexuality as a sexual orientation that is designed and bestowed by God. It suggests that Francis does not believe that individuals choose to be gay or lesbian, as some religious conservatives argue.

Austen Ivereigh, who has written a biography of the pope, said Francis had likely made similar comments in private in the past, when he served as a spiritual director to gay people in Buenos Aires, but that Cruz’s public discussion of his conversation with Francis represented the most “forceful” remarks on the subject since 2013.

It did not, however, represent a shift in church teaching, Ivereigh said, since the church had never formally made any pronouncements on why individuals were gay.

Christopher Lamb, the Vatican correspondent for the Tablet, said the comments were remarkable and a sign of a shift in attitudes taking place. “It goes beyond ‘who am I to judge?’ to ‘you are loved by God,’” said Lamb. “I don’t think he has changed church teaching but he’s demonstrating an affirmation of gay Catholics, something that has been missing over the years in Rome.”

The remarks come as several high profile members of the clergy have sought to publicly make inroads with gay Catholics, many of whom have felt shunned and unwelcome in the church and have been ostracised.

Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest in New York who has nearly 200,000 Twitter followers, has led the outreach effort and was chosen last month to serve as a consultor to the Vatican’s secretariat for communications.

Martin has argued in his book Building a Bridge that the onus is on the church to make LGBT Catholics feel welcome in the church and to stop discriminating against people based on their “sexual morality”.

Bron:
Kirchgaessner, S. (2018, mei 20). Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like this'. Opgehaald van theguardian.com: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...uan-carlos-cruz

Eigen mening:
Dankzij Paus Franciscus heb ik mijn hoop in de katholieke kerk nog niet verloren. Begrijp me niet verkeerd, ik heb niets tegen religie of het katholicisme. Ik heb wel iets tegen het conservatief en archaïsch denken dat lijkt te heersen in hogere en lagere kringen van de katholieke kerk (en andere instellingen ook natuurlijk, maar daar gaat het nu niet over). Franciscus laat echter de keerzijde van de munt zien. Hij handelt volgens een "christelijke moraal" en toont zich bereid om verandering te accepteren. Volgens mij zou hij ook graag wat meer verandering brengen in de kerk, maar hij is uiteraard geen alleenheerser en zal zeker worden tegengewerkt. Daarom probeert hij de wereld te verbeteren door het goede voorbeeld te geven, en dat respecteer ik.

Laatst aangepast door Lander.W*yts : 20th May 2018 om 16:21.
Met citaat antwoorden
Antwoord


Onderwerp Opties Zoek in onderwerp
Zoek in onderwerp:

Uitgebreid Zoeken
Weergave Modus Stem op dit onderwerp:
Stem op dit onderwerp::

Posting Regels
Je mag niet nieuwe onderwerpen maken
Je mag niet reageren op posts
Je mag niet bijlagen posten
Je mag niet jouw posts bewerken

vB code is Aan
Smilies zijn Aan
[IMG] code is Aan
HTML code is Uit
Forumsprong



Alle tijden zijn GMT +2. De tijd is nu 21:12.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.